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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Chaotic Good on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:24 pm

Oh, and;

MikeZulu wrote:Also, where did you get your DecalFix from?

From Lendons. However, there is a possibly better one on Ebay in the US.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by [Jay] on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:25 pm

Is there a way of avoiding this? Smile

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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by DarthPineapple on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:26 pm

Matchstick wrote:Is there a way of avoiding this? Smile

Nope. But if you would have used your common sense, you would have known that anything unless it's really thin tears. Wink
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by [Jay] on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:27 pm

Oh, Goodbye leg stickers then. Good thing I haven't printed them. Smile

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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Chaotic Good on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:27 pm

Matchstick wrote:Is there a way of avoiding this? Smile

Use decals. Razz

Or use designs which don't extend above the hip. You can see that in action on Scorp's figs.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by DarthPineapple on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:29 pm

Chaotic Good wrote:
Matchstick wrote:Is there a way of avoiding this? Smile

Use decals. Razz

Or use designs which don't extend above the hip. You can see that in action on Scorp's figs.

Yep I use that too.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by MikeZulu on Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:44 pm

Chaotic Good wrote:For some reason, it depends on the age of the hip piece. If the legs are tighter on the hip, the decals - even if sprayed - rip when bent to sit down. If the legs are looser, occasionally the decals don't. It's confusing..

However, Wuzz prescribes sanding the inside of the hip piece - it then allows room to sit down. I'd say PM him about it. Wink

And decals DO do it. I've often been plagued by it.. Sad

I used to sand the insides down, but then the legs would become super loose - I hated it. And sanding it didn't guarantee it wouldn't tear.

But I noticed that most of the time, the decals only tear near the "crotch" of the legs, but the outsides would be fine. So now I make my decals so that they're nowhere near that area.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by CloneCommandoXion on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:55 am

One question, for someone with experience, I have printed my decal designs on water slide decal paper, do I have to let them dry and also do I need to coat them with something befor I apply them.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Axel on Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:33 am

CloneCommandoXion wrote:One question, for someone with experience, I have printed my decal designs on water slide decal paper, do I have to let them dry and also do I need to coat them with something befor I apply them.

Old thread, but since your question is valid, I suppose it's fine. CG stated that you need Acrylic Spray in the first few liens of his post. That's what you need to use before you apply your decals. Summing it up, the process is usually let dry for half an hour, spray 2 coats of acrylic spray at 1 hour intervals, let dry, dip in water, apply, let dry, then apply another coat of spray.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Sialboats on Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:38 am

If I ever do waterslides, this is place I'll be going to for help. Excellently done, CG Wink !
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Axel on Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:43 pm

I was going to PM this question straight to CG, but I think that the wider community should be able to gain something from hearing it.

Most people stress over the applying of the decals, however...they often overlook the printing process. Like me, for example. I printed off a sheet of decals and realised that the ink had run on some of them. In other cases, the there were small white dots over the decals. I printed using the 'Best Photo' option and selected 'Normal Paper' as the media type. From what I've researched, I should've have gone with the 'Photo-Quality Inkjet Paper' option. Care to give your opinion, CG?
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Thunder-blade on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:01 pm

I'm not CG, but I have some input. Razz

My decals printed fine, the paper usually has directions on what settings to print them. So yeah, highest quality and glossy paper settings are the best!
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Axel on Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:01 am

Thunder-blade wrote:I'm not CG, but I have some input. Razz

My decals printed fine, the paper usually has directions on what settings to print them. So yeah, highest quality and glossy paper settings are the best!

Wel I tried that, and the results are the same. l actually prefer the coloration on my first print more, and the white dots and running ink was still present. I'm thinking that 'Best Photo' might actually release too much ink, causing the runniness.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Chaotic Good on Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:34 pm

You're actually absolutely right. Here are my print options for my Epson Inkjet R340:

White decal paper: Epson Premium Glossy, High Quality

Clear decal paper: Epson Premium Semigloss, High Quality


The problems you're describing - ink running, bad colourization - happened to me too, and after much trial and error I came up with the above as the best options for my own printer. They may, of course, differ for each type.

I'm thinking that 'Best Photo' might actually release too much ink, causing the runniness.

Yep, that's my theory too.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Axel on Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:58 pm

Well, I've played around with the settings and ended up printing half a sheet's worth of extra decals, but no progress.

I'll have to stick with this, and try to pass the dotted effect off as battle damage. Smile I'll post some pictures up soon and see if you guys notice it.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Nave333 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:38 pm

Is there any way you could show some pictures on how to sand down the leg for applying the decals so they don't tear or maybe even a link to a video so I dont get it wrong. Thanks Nave. Wink
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Nave333 on Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:28 am

Just to ask what is the best spray to use to seal decals, paint and sharpie??? also can someone plz reply to my post I need to know.

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How Cool!

Post by Edgewing on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:48 am

Yellow Ha, I love that. Know I know how to apply decals Kashyyyk

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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by commandercodyinc on Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:03 am

Thank you I got waterslides the other day and was not sure how to aplly them and this helped alot.

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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Custom 333 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:17 pm

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This is as n00bish as heck, but how is decal softener used? Such as application.

EDIT: Gosh darn it, I really fail. Sad

... Laughing
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Waterslide Decals

Post by Persian Prince on Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:16 pm

Hey CG, I was wondering if you were using a plain white torso os if you sanded down a regular clone trooper torso. If it was sanded down, how did you do it? If it was a plain white torso, where did you get it?
Thanks Kashyyyk
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Thunder-blade on Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:20 pm

EliteShadowTrooper wrote:Hey CG, I was wondering if you were using a plain white torso os if you sanded down a regular clone trooper torso. If it was sanded down, how did you do it? If it was a plain white torso, where did you get it?
Thanks Kashyyyk

You can get plain white torsos off of BL. Or you can brasso/sand down the clone torso.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Chaotic Good on Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:47 pm

Ergghhhh.....

No, no. Do not sand. It creates a rough and horrible surface.

Brasso removes the printing only - with chemicals, it's a polish - and leaves a blank surface. Sanding literally grinds bits off the torso - it's nasty, in my view.

Blank torsos are actually quite rare, especially white ones. It's cheaper and easier to buy a load of simply printed (like the Octan ones) white torsos and brasso off the printing. It looks cleaner, too.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by Ham701 on Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:50 pm

Erm....I shouldn't have sharpied that blank white torso then.
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Re: Tutorial on Waterslide Decal Application.

Post by eclipsegrafx on Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:34 pm

Ham701 wrote:Erm....I shouldn't have sharpied that blank white torso then.

you can erase or brasso it off... but its simple enough to find white minifig's you can do the same to.
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