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Post by PhiMa on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:56 pm

I'm currently working on yet another WWII tank, yet this time nazi. It'll be the StuG III and I'm basing it mainly of pictures from Brickmania and Aaron Morse. So far I have the tread system covered, and need to work out some minor flaws, then I can build the top layer and begin greebling. I have a very very major WIP pic right now:


Yeah, not much. Razz And I know I've mixed greys, remember, WIP!

Tips are appreciated!
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Thunder-blade on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:57 pm

As I said on Flickr, needs some greebles or something... looks kinda plain.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by RubbahBand on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:05 pm

Actually, I think the mixed grays would be good to make the tank seem like it's weathered down. Wink
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PizzaMovies on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:16 pm

When I clicked on this, I said "Oh cool, a STuG!" but when I saw that it was only half finished tread system...I was sad. Sad Laughing
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PhiMa on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:22 pm

@Teeb: Like I said on Flickr, the greebs are usually the things I work on last. First I want to finish the overall shape.

@Anomanzer: Yeah, I guess your right, but I'd prefer it to be a shiney new tank Wow this thing looks

@Pizza: Yeah, I know, hence the 'Major'. I'm working on the other half right now though and hope to get the lower part done by tonight.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PizzaMovies on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:39 pm

PhiMa wrote:@Teeb: Like I said on Flickr, the greebs are usually the things I work on last. First I want to finish the overall shape.

@Anomanzer: Yeah, I guess your right, but I'd prefer it to be a shiney new tank Wow this thing looks

@Pizza: Yeah, I know, hence the 'Major'. I'm working on the other half right now though and hope to get the lower part done by tonight.

Cool, I plan on making a PIV or PIVist tank for my German faction.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PhiMa on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:15 pm

UPDATE! I've completed the bottom half. Well, kinda. The first stage anyway.


Here we see the daring half finished StuG III taking on the Mount Bley Bricks. Razz
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Alpha on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:17 pm

Finally... now just don't use 2x2 slopes like almost every other WWII tank. Razz

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Post by Tac on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:54 pm

Oh wow! Now all it needs is some 2x2 slopes! Razz
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by LegoBoyRobert on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:42 pm

Woah! That's way cool! I hope to see more soon! But StuGs aren't tanks, they're Assault Guns, I think.

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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by 80-0 on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:43 pm

@ Rob: Tank hunters, to be precise. They aren't tanks 'cos they don't have a rotating turret.

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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PizzaMovies on Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:35 am

No, Tank Destroyers to be precise. Razz

And it would be impossible NOT to use slopes for a stug...just look at it.
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Post by PizzaMovies on Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:35 am

No, Tank Destroyers to be precise. Razz

And it would be impossible NOT to use slopes for a stug...just look at it.


EDIT: CRAP, sorry for double post, I hit the "POST REPLY" button instead of edit...don't report me plz.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by 80-0 on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:03 am

Now you've got me confused. I thought the Marder was a tank destroyer.

EDIT: Oh, no, I get it now. The Jadgpanzer panzerjager, in example, was a tank destroyer, but the Marder is a tank hunter.

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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Awesome-o-saurus on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:27 am

Tank hunters/tank destroyers? Don't they both do the same thing (take out tanks)?
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PizzaMovies on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:33 am

Awesome-o-saurus wrote:Tank hunters/tank destroyers? Don't they both do the same thing (take out tanks)?

No, they're completely different. Razz Wink
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Alpha on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:35 am

Not really... based on the name, their purpose is to destroy tanks. Razz

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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Awesome-o-saurus on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:47 am

PizzaMovies wrote:
Awesome-o-saurus wrote:Tank hunters/tank destroyers? Don't they both do the same thing (take out tanks)?

No, they're completely different. Razz Wink

Well, it would be helpfull if you could enlighten me as to why they are different. I don't feel like spending 15 minutes getting distracted on wikipedia.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PizzaMovies on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:53 am

Awesome-o-saurus wrote:
PizzaMovies wrote:
Awesome-o-saurus wrote:Tank hunters/tank destroyers? Don't they both do the same thing (take out tanks)?

No, they're completely different. Razz Wink

Well, it would be helpfull if you could enlighten me as to why they are different. I don't feel like spending 15 minutes getting distracted on wikipedia.

Tank destroyers and hunters aren't tank fighters, if they go head to head against tanks, they will lose. Destroyers hunt in packs, picking on tanks one at a time, while hunters mainly work alone, maneuver behind a tank column and fire then run away, rinse and repeat. Although allied tank destroyers and hunters were more effective, they were faster, had better guns, etc. And they worked well against the lumbering slow Tigers, Panthers and King Tigers.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by DarthPineapple on Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:10 am

Looking great PhiMa! May I suggest putting that front lower armor a bit more backwards?
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PhiMa on Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:22 am

DarthPineapple wrote:Looking great PhiMa! May I suggest putting that front lower armor a bit more backwards?

Thanks, but no can do. If I were to lower it, It'd show some of the technic axels. I could maybe lenthen it though...
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by 11_seconds_older on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:08 am

PhiMa wrote:
DarthPineapple wrote:Looking great PhiMa! May I suggest putting that front lower armor a bit more backwards?

Thanks, but no can do. If I were to lower it, It'd show some of the technic axels. I could maybe lenthen it though...

I think making it a tad longer, Or greebling the technique axle and letting it show..?
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by PhiMa on Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:45 pm

Update! I've got the turret basically done, now come the greebles, hatch, and back area.

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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by DarthPineapple on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:58 pm

It's nice, but the gun and supports are kinda fail.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Stug_iii_helsinki.jpg

First, make the part which actually holds the gun more blocky.
Then, redo the entire barrel. Make it longer. First attach a 1x1 round plate, then a 1x1 round brick, a rod on op of that, then some of these over the rod, and then either a 1x1 cone or brick, whatever looks best.
And then put one of those robot hands on a jumper plate right under the gun.


And it needs more wheels. A lot more wheels. Also different sizes.
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Re: StuG III Major WIP

Post by Sialboats on Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:37 am

In regards to the beginning conversation: Yeah, it'd be impossible to not use slopes, but not impossible to not use 2x2s. In fact, I think you'd need VERY few 2x2 slopes. 1x3s, 2x4's are going to make up the entirety of this thing, I believe. The STuG has much more gradual sloping, 2x2's would only be useful at maybe the very top of the vehicle, before it levels out and begins sloping down.


As to this new WIP... it's not right. It's not supposed to be perfectly flat in the front of the gun, nor is it along the sides. It's sloping very gently. This is turning out to be too chunky Razz .
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