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Post by a43 Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:45 pm

stupid question is the digital designer tool where you are able to purchase the all white clones that are used for decals?
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Post by Rook Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:00 pm

a43 wrote:do you think I should scrap everything? and if so do you think its a good idea to work more on this frame here?MOC Feedback for New Members - Page 3 7761264758_7aafb08962_m

Yep, basically the only thing you have is base plates with large molded pieces and plates stuck in vertically. Instead down size. Use only one 32x32 and instead of large molded pieces see tutorial on rock texture. Then instead of plates build 1 stud wide walls with battle damage. Finally ground texture. Don't leave a blank baseplate. Use SNOT techniques or tiles. If can't do that then be sure to use plates to slight changes in evelvation. The earth hasn't been flat since 300 BC. Wink
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Post by a43 Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:14 pm

Ok I've been doing a lot of work in the Lego cad software programs lately because I can refine what I'm working on per your recommendations. I would have used the "rock texture" idea from start if I had enough pieces like stated before. Thank you for your input.
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Post by C.J.Cutrone9 Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:11 pm

I love and I am sure that everyone of the other guildies feel the same way. Smile

Never be afraid to ask for help! I did and had it not been for Knight and Lazerblade's help over PMs, I wouldn't be a guildie. Smile
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Post by a43 Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:44 am

Ok then, I used the digital designer software and worked in that for a little bit and i have a new project to show you.
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comments, questions appreciated!
(for a closer look these are also on my flickr)
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Post by jamesuniverse Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:00 pm

Ok. First what theme? I can't tell completely, but it looks "modern" and the road is so plain. Why such a open road? The building is kinda boxy, and the windows are what I like to call line windows. They have no separation and they are in one straight line with no uniqueness. The building could also use some curves and/or sloping. Hope this helps!
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Post by a43 Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:50 pm

Ok cool, I'll go work on that but do the windows need separation? I kinda meant it to be like an observation room. and to explain the unprinted no detail road each brick has to be connected to another stud.
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Post by jamesuniverse Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:05 pm

a43 wrote:Ok cool, I'll go work on that but do the windows need separation? I kinda meant it to be like an observation room. and to explain the unprinted no detail road each brick has to be connected to another stud.

Then raise the MOC up. Make the road 2 plates thick and connect the studs from the bottom set of plates to the baseplate. On the second layer of plates add a mix of tiles and other details such as rubble studs etc. Also the windows can be a long row, but since this is a smaller MOC I suggest you have lots of details like grill tiles, slopes etc. Small MOCs need lots of detail. Big MOCs shouldn't be attempted until detail is mastered.
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Post by a43 Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:21 am

jamesuniverse wrote:
a43 wrote:Ok cool, I'll go work on that but do the windows need separation? I kinda meant it to be like an observation room. and to explain the unprinted no detail road each brick has to be connected to another stud.

Then raise the MOC up. Make the road 2 plates thick and connect the studs from the bottom set of plates to the baseplate. On the second layer of plates add a mix of tiles and other details such as rubble studs etc. Also the windows can be a long row, but since this is a smaller MOC I suggest you have lots of details like grill tiles, slopes etc. Small MOCs need lots of detail. Big MOCs shouldn't be attempted until detail is mastered.

what do you mean by make it two plates thick?
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Post by C.J.Cutrone9 Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:21 pm

The sides of the road a what I think he is talking about. Add some brown plates on it. Like, cover it in brown plates, and more plants.
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Post by jamesuniverse Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:51 pm

C.J.Cutrone9 wrote:The sides of the road a what I think he is talking about.
No. I am not as picture editing savy as Rook, but here is my point.

----______---- Brick built road with tiles and curbs
---------------- Plates covering entire baseplate
---------------- Road Baseplate
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Post by Rook Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:02 pm

jamesuniverse wrote:
C.J.Cutrone9 wrote:The sides of the road a what I think he is talking about.
No. I am not as picture editing savy as Rook, but here is my point.

----______---- Brick built road with tiles and curbs
---------------- Plates covering entire baseplate
---------------- Road Baseplate

Basically for small MOCs you should never see a baseplate. Use them sure, but see them no. Only time you should see a base plate is if you're going a large city like nine 32x32's or larger. And even if you can, brick build them. You get way more detail but of course this does mean thousands of pieces more. But until then just keep building and enjoying using whatever you have.
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Post by a43 Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:45 am

ooooooh that makes sense Doh! .. like this?MOC Feedback for New Members - Page 3 7799295756_bd7469b5b4_m and then add every thing else on top of this form?
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(again closer look on flickr)
(gotta love that soft ware Smile )



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Post by jamesuniverse Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Yes. Also if you can SNOT a road like SCI-MOC's road your would even be a step farther. Wink
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Post by a43 Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:15 am

that's also what I was thinking, like the middle of the big one. hmmmm Kabam! how would i have a clean transition to the building?
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Post by jamesuniverse Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:01 am

A road to a wall? Or to a gate? If you make a garage type building that could work to.
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Post by a43 Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:55 pm

or i could put everything up another brick like that and i also have new progress on the slopy thing.


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Post by C.J.Cutrone9 Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:11 pm

There is also the prblem of this being LDD and not real Legos, which means you'd be unable to do SNOT.
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Post by a43 Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:17 pm

you can SNOT in LDD gimme a min for another one of my visuals..

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Post by a43 Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:10 pm

here is the latest update of my checkpoint! Smile ALL comments and questions appreciated!

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Post by jamesuniverse Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:28 pm

Add 2x2 dark grey tiles in the road,but don't cover the whole thing. Make it smooth, but destroyed.
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Post by a43 Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:57 pm

ok ill update this after noon.

what do you think James.. is this what you were looking for?


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Post by a43 Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:14 am

do you think i should detail the inside? i know its a little plain but i wouldn't know where to start.
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Post by jamesuniverse Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:09 am

First don't double post Wink
Second you do realize only brick built models can be summited for the guild.
Third You MUST detail the inside Wink Communication area, armory, anything you want!
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Post by a43 Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:29 am

jamesuniverse wrote:First don't double post Wink
Second you do realize only brick built models can be summited for the guild.
Third You MUST detail the inside Wink Communication area, armory, anything you want!

come on! Smile of course I know not to double post I've been pretty good about that lately.. second I know it has to be brick built.. Razz what am I.. new here or something? Razz. I'm just refining so I know EXACTLY, what I want to do for a high detail build. LDD is a good beginner practice tool.
thanks for your input!
(oh I made the 2x2 tiles light grey to give it a little contrast)
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